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The Loch Ness Monster

Started by Brian JohnsonPPI, August 03, 2006, 12:12:54 PM

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Brian JohnsonPPI

Several people say they have "seen" Nessy and that they have proof. I personally believe that the chances of a dinosaur surviving the mass extinction are very very slim to none. What are your thoughts?

PPI Glenn

I think it's just a really big carp!  ::)
Glenn Pitcher
Founder, Pacific Paranormal Investigations
R.I.P. (1963-2009)

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dwalters

I saw nessy on that toyota commercial......it spit out the tacoma. What a trip.

PPI Brian

Once upon a time I used to believe that Nessy was a Plesiosaur.

Then I realized the lake was formed by glaciers... :)

Although some "living fossils" have turned up in the nets of fisherman over the last 50 years, such as the Coelacanth, I agree with Brian; no large life forms survived the mass extinction that occurred 65 million years ago. Nessy is probably just a giant sturgeon.

Here?s a cool website that explains why Nessy can?t be a Plesiosaur.

http://www.plesiosaur.com/lochness.php

Regards,

Brian Miller
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

Holly

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PPI Brian

Wow! That's very cool. I will have to play this video over and over and really get a good look at it.

Brian Miller
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

Brian JohnsonPPI


PPI Brian

Yeah, I agree there is a small boat making a wake. But the dark anomoly under the water is interesting. Looks like a big fish swimming close to the surface. Perhaps a big sturgeon?
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

lkasak

That is interesting. I don't think that it is a boat wake. I had read that the original footage had more in it, namely something to show scale in order to determine how big this dark figure is. I would really like to see the original footage, not this cropped footage that has no context.
The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best - and therefore never scrutinize or question.
     Stephen Jay Gould

PPI Brian

Quote from: PPI Lauren on June 01, 2007, 12:06:52 PM
That is interesting. I don't think that it is a boat wake. I had read that the original footage had more in it, namely something to show scale in order to determine how big this dark figure is. I would really like to see the original footage, not this cropped footage that has no context.

Yes, I would love to see the original uncut footage too. Footage edited and presented like this is inconclusive. Without context, this footage is merely pretext.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

bellalaghoste

Science says there is not enough food to keep a large sea animail feed. So nessy not real but it would be cool if there was a living dinosaur like that alive nessy is my favorite dinosaur.  Watch the discovery channel sometimes there are specials on the lock ness monster.  Our it can be a huge strugen. 

PPI Brian

A recent Cryptomundo.com article on the web highlights the Garside video that allegedly shows Nessie breaking the surface of the infamous Loch Ness. Check out the video here:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/garside-nessie/

Is this proof that the Loch Ness monster is a giant sturgeon?  ;D
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

Kristen

Quote from: PPI Brian M on July 10, 2008, 01:25:15 AM
A recent Cryptomundo.com article on the web highlights the Garside video that allegedly shows Nessie breaking the surface of the infamous Loch Ness. Check out the video here:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/garside-nessie/

Is this proof that the Loch Ness monster is a giant sturgeon?  ;D

I'm a little troubled in thinking it is a sturgeon.  My reasoning is these fish are bottom dwellers as their mouths are designed much like catfish and they feed off of the floor.  Why would sturgeons be at the surface of a very deep lake?
Nothing in life is to be feared.  It is only to be understood.  ~Marie Curie

MichaelF (FPIE)

I don't know if Nessie is real or not, but even if that video is Sturgeon, that doesn't mean that Nessie doesn't exist, it just happens to mean that video showed sturgeon.  If that was the only evidence of Nessie, it might mean something, but there have been many reports.
200 years ago, our communication over computers would have been deemed magical and we all would have been burned at the stake.  200 years from now, explanations for what we call Paranormal will be in Science Textbooks.

Brian Johnson

I don't know about that video. It looks an awful lot like wake patterns to me. But, I wouldn't rule out a large group of Sturgeons, either.

PPI Brian

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Quote from: Kristen on July 12, 2008, 02:52:32 AM
Quote from: PPI Brian M on July 10, 2008, 01:25:15 AM
A recent Cryptomundo.com article on the web highlights the Garside video that allegedly shows Nessie breaking the surface of the infamous Loch Ness. Check out the video here:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/garside-nessie/

Is this proof that the Loch Ness monster is a giant sturgeon?  ;D

I'm a little troubled in thinking it is a sturgeon.  My reasoning is these fish are bottom dwellers as their mouths are designed much like catfish and they feed off of the floor.  Why would sturgeons be at the surface of a very deep lake?

Excellent point. Loch Ness is in fact extremely deep. It was formed by glaciers during the last ice age. Deep water often becomes anoxic, and deep water bottom feeders, such as catfish and sturgeon, although they have gills, can breathe air, so they often surface for a few gulps of air.  :)
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

Kristen

That I never knew, which cracks my Sturgeon theory.  It must take them awhile to surface I would think...a rush up to the surface would make their air bladders expand too much and kill them.  I caught a deeper dwelling fish once and this happened...the fish was pretty much dead when I reeled it in.  Kind of like the bends I guess.

I'm not rooting for plesiosaur (sp?  I stink at dinosaur names) at all.  Mutated known animal or something with real growth issues is what I lean towards.  I know that some fish can get rather large when they are in a habitat that can accommodate such a large size (goldfish for example).  I've seen carp that get almost 4 feet long.  I think there is something there, I just don't know how "monsterish" it really is.  Maybe it's just a big fat overgrown carp? ???


Quote from: PPI Brian M on July 13, 2008, 03:39:14 AM
Quote from: Kristen on July 12, 2008, 02:52:32 AM
Quote from: PPI Brian M on July 10, 2008, 01:25:15 AM
A recent Cryptomundo.com article on the web highlights the Garside video that allegedly shows Nessie breaking the surface of the infamous Loch Ness. Check out the video here:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/garside-nessie/

Is this proof that the Loch Ness monster is a giant sturgeon?  ;D

I'm a little troubled in thinking it is a sturgeon.  My reasoning is these fish are bottom dwellers as their mouths are designed much like catfish and they feed off of the floor.  Why would sturgeons be at the surface of a very deep lake?

Excellent point. Loch Ness is in fact extremely deep. It was formed by glaciers during the last ice age. Deep water often becomes anoxic, and deep water bottom feeders, such as catfish and sturgeon, although they have gills, can breathe air, so they often surface for a few gulps of air.  :)
Nothing in life is to be feared.  It is only to be understood.  ~Marie Curie

bellalaghoste

NESSY i wish it was real that is all i have to say. 

ttjoon

I've been to Loch Ness.  Television, books and the internet do NOT do it justice.  The castle ruins are amazing and the loch is so vast.  Scotland is so beautiful.  Across from Loch Ness, they have a hotel called, The Nessie Inn.  It's funny because they have a pond out front with this cheesy fake Nessie.  Cool place and great atmosphere.  Anybody else ever been there?

Kristen

I've never been but now I really want to go.  The cheesy fake Nessie was the clincher.
Nothing in life is to be feared.  It is only to be understood.  ~Marie Curie