Have you ever met someone who...

[Tim]

Do you think that there are beings who walk the earth who appear to be humans
but are not human?
Now, now, now. I know there are such creatures like Republicans and bottom feeding Lawyers,
But have you ever met someone who you were uncertain that they were human?
Years ago I was at work and met an old woman who had a strong smell of death.
The experience left me wondering.
Anyone else ever had a simular experience?

Tim

[dwalters]

Do you think that there are beings who walk the earth who appear to be humans
but are not human?
Now, now, now. I know there are such creatures like Republicans and bottom feeding Lawyers,
But have you ever met someone who you were uncertain that they were human?
Years ago I was at work and met an old woman who had a strong smell of death.
The experience left me wondering.
Anyone else ever had a simular experience?

Tim

George W. Bush...I'm SURE is NOT human. Other than that I've never really thought about it. I've met some strange people, but I myself am strange and unusual.

[Tim]

LOL!
I must agree with you! George Bush isn't human. Most of the people who hang around him are probably not human as well. 

My experience left me with the feeling that I was in the movie,
"THEY LIVE"
It was just GD eerie.

Tim

[lkasak]

I believe it is the Navajo who have stories about skin walkers. They are essentially wer-animals or shape shifters.
Here are a couple links to expand on it:
http://www.geocities.com/asdzani/navajo/skinwalk.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker_(mythology)

[lkasak]

On a less paranormal note, the old woman you speak of could very easily have been in the latter stages of a fatal illness (cancer, liver failure, etc.) and have been emitting the "death" scent because of this. Or, she could have spent a lot of time around death, either working in a motuary or perhaps had a lot of pets that had died in her home. There are people who "collect" pets and often times are overwhelmed when their unaltered pet reproduce at a frenetic pace. Sometimes in these situations, there will be dead animals all around but due to the "collector's" need to keep them due to deeper psychological issues, the decomposing bodies will not be disposed of properly and instead will remain in the person's house. Decomposition of bodily tissue produces a scent that adheres to fat molecules making it especially difficult to get rid of.

[PPI Brian]

Hey Tim,

I wonder if she was perhaps a serial killer? Maybe she was into necrophelia? 

Just kidding. I hear what you're saying. Perhaps this person might not have been a person, as you described. Did she have a library card? What kind of books did she like to borrow... perhaps books on taxidermy? 

Hope all is well

Brian Miller

[Tim]

Hi Brian
I mean BM
aaa  I mean PPI Brian M.
Good to see you back on the site.
The old lady asked me where did we keep the Biographies?
As she left in the direction of where she could find Biographies, she left that smell hanging in the air. And come to think about it, I never actually saw her leave the Library.
If she would have had a Library card, it would have been no good.
She like her card was expired.

Sorry, I couldn't resist LOL
Tim

[PPI Karl]

Maybe she was into necrophelia? 

During my brief but dreadful nine months in Binghamton, New York, I had a very forward-thinking small town barber who made a very convincing argument for Michael Jackson being a practicing necrophiliac.  (No joking here, either.)  He cited his frequent visits to Indonesia, where the underground necrophilia "trade" (what other kind is there, for chris'sakes!?) is alive and well and cheap, and where it's difficult to trace the activities of a pop star with unorthodox predilections.  He also called attention to Michael's makeup (pallid and wan skin) and cosmetic surgery (nasal relapse and emaciated cheeks) that make him look like a corpse.

As if Never-Never-Land weren't creepy enough!

[lkasak]

Karl - that just blew my mind. I'm also quite disturbed by that possibility...weird!

[dwalters]

Okay since the dynamic duo, Tim and Brian, brought up necrophelia...I feel I MUST share this bizarre story with you all.

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING STORY IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WITH BAD BACKS, BAD STOMACHS, BAD BREATH, BAD HAIR (Karl...you're fine...in oh so many ways!), BAD JOKES. PLEASE READ STORY AT YOUR OWN FREAKING RISK!
(don't say I didn't warn you)

I work with this guy who's best friend happens to be a woman. They have been best friends ever since junior high school...they are in their late 40's now. Many years ago, she developed a sort of skin rash around her mouth. This rash wasn't pretty to look at, and it was painful for her to eat and speak. My friend told her to get it looked at, as it was not getting any better...so she went to her doctor, and the doctor had never seen anything like it...he took a tiny sample of it for testing. A couple weeks go by and the doctor calls her in to speak with her personally rather than over the phone. So she goes rushing off to meet with her doctor, she's very anxious, very nervous, very curious and just really wants to find out what was so important that the doctor couldn't inform her of anything over the phone....she's naturally, very concerned. The doctor asks how her sex life is, and she replied that it was great. He asked if she performs felaicio (spelling) on her husband, and she replies "sometimes...why?" now she's VERY concerned...she does give him oral sex regularly, she's thinking he's been cheating on her and now she has an STD around her mouth. She's visibly upset and CRUSHED...she breaks down in tears. The doctor calms her down and says, "Mrs. X, this is not any form of STD. What does your husband do for a living?" Her reply was "He's a mortician"
"Mrs. X, the rash you have around your mouth is actually a parasite found only on the dead" was what the doctor said to her that started the divorce wheels in motion. Needless to say, he is no longer a mortician, they are no longer married, and her rash has cleared up. He was a necropheliac by day, and a sexually active husband by night....never showering in between apparently.

I know this is a TOUGH story to believe, but my buddy swore up and down that it was all true. My jaw was dropped for days!

Why wasn't it on his genitalia as well? I asked that...and I forgot the answer.

[Tim]

WOW!
%@#& WOW! :o
Gross but WOW!
Its pretty bad to have your husband cheat on you,
It's a whole different story to have your husband cheat on you with some
dead chick!
"Honey, Can we try something different?
We can? Ok..."
"Here's what I want you to you..."
Yuck!
LOL

[PPI Brian]

Wow, Dave...

That's one gross story. And it's hard to gross me out... after all, I was a grave digger once upon a time. ?

Brian Miller

[PPI Karl]

Why wasn't it on his genitalia as well? I asked that...and I forgot the answer.

I could offer an explanation for this, but we'd have to refine our definition of "oral sex".  If it wasn't the husband's genitals that were in contact with the necrotic tissue, but rather his rectum, and if it wasn't traditional fellatio his wife had performed on him, but rather a good ol' fashioned rim job . . .  Well, you see where I'm going with this, I hope.

[dwalters]

WOW...never even crossed my mind. I think we should put an 18 year and older block on this thread...this is bad.

[PPI Karl]

I agree.

[Tim]

I see where you're going and I agree as well.
Let us get back to the topic of discussion.
Have you met anyone who made you wonder if they were a Living Human Being?
What beings do you believe can possibly live among us?
Tim

[PPI Brian]

Hey Tim,

Wow. How the heck did the thread start going off in THIS direction...  I'm sorry I brought up the subject of necrophilia.  It was just a thought to try and explain that SMELL.

Perhaps the lady you mentioned was one of those "cat collectors" that Lauren mentioned. You know, the ones you see on the local news from time to time... their house is a shambles, and they have 400 cats running all over the place. Cat dookey everywhere, and dead cat carcasses under the couch. Although they try to keep themselves presentable when they go out in public, they can't shake that SMELL. Perhaps she might have been one of those poor sad souls. Lost in life with no one to help them.

Just a thought...

Brian Miller

[dwalters]

I don't want to sound like a jerk...I REALLY don't, but I just think that humans are among us. Nobody else. I do believe in Alien life...is it advanced enough to travel to our planet? Maybe. But the "walking dead"? Not too sure I believe that too much. I DO believe that spirits can manifest themselves to a point that looks human, but that is only temporary. This is too far fetched for me.

[PPI Karl]

an old woman who had a strong smell of death.

I concur with Dave.

Also, I  think unseen factors could contribute to "smell of death."  Doctors have always relied on their sense of smell to determine what's going on with a patient's biochemistry:  different circumstances cause different odors.  (It's why Bloodhounds can, quite literally, sniff out a tumor or why Collie's can alert an epileptic of an oncoming seizure.)  As a caregiver to someone with a lot of disabling metabolic problems, I can attest that different circumstances lead to different odors.  One of his problems is advanced diabetes; when his blood sugar exceeds 400 (which it does often, throughout the day), he perspires ketones.  Also, he knows when I'm about to have one of my massive cluster headache attacks before I do because, he says, my breath for some reason smells like a pharmacy.

The other possibility lies with medications and "contraindications" (as they're called in the Physicians Desk Reference).  Pharmacology is, essentially, "better living through chemistry," so introducing foreign chemicals into the body is going to cause chemical reactions.  We can't always know how severe or peculiar those reactions will be.  (This is why the same perfume or cologne can smell so different from one person to the next--except for Polo of course, which rivals household bleach for the power of its stench.)  We had a case last fall, in fact, where there were reports of a perfume smell coming from an airtight Clean Room in a cryogenic lab.  Employees felt the odor to be paranormal.  How else could you explain perfume in a Clean Room, right?  The truth of it is that any one of those employees entering the Clean Room was a living container of biochemicals, and just coming in contact with one another--never mind the chemicals with which they were working--could make a chemical reaction seem even more pronounced in such a rarefied environment.  (Note:  We never completely solved that one, as far as I know.)

Maybe in this case it might be more accurate to say that this elderly woman you encountered gave off a strong smell of illness?  Or, if you feel like being more optimistic about her chances, let's assume she gave off a strong smell of wellness. (Anyone care to play the Glad Game?)

[dwalters]

happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy....ahhh, I miss Ren and Stimpy!

The purfume in the clean room....yes, I do remember this one very well. I remember trying my absolute hardest to figure this one out. I thought I came close, but there's a lot of holes in my theory. My theory was the bathroom air freshners. The bathroom air freshners are located above the door in the restroom and they are on a self timer...they spray every 5 minutes or so...perhaps this spray squirted as someone was leaving the restroom and it landed on thier hair. That stuff sticks with you for a while...a buddy of mine in the art room stole one of these sprayers to use in the office when he "let's one go" and oh boy is that stuff STRONG!!!!

[PPI Brian]

an old woman who had a strong smell of death.

Maybe in this case it might be more accurate to say that this elderly woman you encountered gave off a strong smell of illness?? Or, if you feel like being more optimistic about her chances, let's assume she gave off a strong smell of wellness. (Anyone care to play the Glad Game?)

So, instead of the old "is the glass half empty..." routine, we could substitute: "Is the old woman half ALIVE, or is she..."   

Brian Miller

[Tim]

LOL!
That's the spirit Brian!
The term half dead has such negitive aspects. I? think it is better that the old lady who was giving off "WELLNESS ODOR" as "HALF ALIVE".
Based on your replies? lady and gentlemen, I believe you all be correct.
They are some unlucky souls who in thier last final hours or days do give off a wellness odor.
I hope that I don't meet another one of those people.
The smell can make me Barf!
Tim

[dwalters]

When my big dog passes gas, it's pretty paranormal smelling.

[Tim]

Do you feel half alive when your dog passed the paranormal wellness odor?

[PPI Brian]

When my big dog passes gas, it's pretty paranormal smelling.

That's a good one, Dave.?

I had a very old cat named Muffin (I didn't name him... I just never changed his name after we adopted him) who could blow us out of the apartment in the last years of his life. He would use his cat box, then run out into the living room and throw up. Then the SMELL would come wafting down the hallway. Talk about paranormal! Man, that was FOUL! There was no doubt in my mind why the old guy lost his lunch!

Brian Miller

[PPI Brian]

Do you feel half alive when your dog passed the paranormal wellness odor?

I know I felt half alive when Muffin passed his paranormal odors. 

Brian Miller

[Tim]

Brian,
Your cat Muffin was a good soul.
However
His colon was evil.

There was no wellness odor that existed in his catbox.
I can say that the experience left me half dead.
On more than one occaision.
He was though a wonderful cat.

Tim

[dwalters]

But could he stand on his head?

[PPI Brian]

No,

But he did have a winning smile! 

And once long ago, I thought I heard him singing this song when I was in another room...

'Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Of course, it could have just been my overactive imagination...

[Tim]

What the hell is does that mean?
Is that latin?
You could have just simply said in latin
"My cattas Muffinus Hasus crapus in catboxium
Thatus canus causesus pukeus whenus thou
getus a whiffus".

Tim