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AVP from Marlene

Started by PPI Brian, April 15, 2013, 03:44:39 AM

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PPI Brian

I received an email with a wav version of this clip from Marlene the other day, but just haven't had the time to respond. She asked for our opinion on this audio clip, which I converted to mp3 and attached to this thread. Here's the background info:

HI Brian:
 
I hope you are doing great!  Would you do me a favor and listen to this
EVP? It was taken at the [Location Omitted] wine cellar last Saturday
night between midnight and 12:30 a.m.  The wine cellar is below street
level if you've never been there.  There was a band playing but it was
playing oldies and honky tonk.  It came from an area where there's a brick
wall and it sounded like it was behind that.  I've never heard anything
like this before and really wanted to get your take on it.  You can also
pass on to your other members if you want for their opinion.

Thanks so much!

Marlene Burke
SDGAP & OC Soulsearchers
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

PPI Karl

#1
Quote from: PPI Brian on April 15, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
I received an email with a wav version of this clip from Marlene the other day, but just haven't had the time to respond. She asked for our opinion on this audio clip, which I converted to mp3 and attached to this thread. Here's the background info:

HI Brian:
 
I hope you are doing great!  Would you do me a favor and listen to this
EVP? It was taken at the [Location Omitted] wine cellar last Saturday
night between midnight and 12:30 a.m.  The wine cellar is below street
level if you've never been there.  There was a band playing but it was
playing oldies and honky tonk.  It came from an area where there's a brick
wall and it sounded like it was behind that.  I've never heard anything
like this before and really wanted to get your take on it.  You can also
pass on to your other members if you want for their opinion.


Thanks, Brian, for doing this for Marlene.  I've downloaded it, and I'll give it a listen in the morning and post some thoughts.  

Off for now, for some honk-shoe. |8x
If you want to end your misery, start enjoying it, because there's nothing the universe begrudges more than our enjoyment.

PPI Brian

#2
I forgot to include this email from Marlene. Apparently the folx she was investigating with don't want her to disclose the location at this time.

Thanks Brian. Please keep this location between you and me. The person I went with didn't want the name given out. Not too sure why but will do. :) Just pretend I never told you the location. hehe

Marlene
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

PPI Brian

#3
Just checked my email and found the following response from Marlene, so I responded right away:

Subject:   Re: Anomalous Audio Clip
From:   bmiller@pacificparanormal.com
Date:   Mon, April 15, 2013 11:54 am
To:   "marlene burke" <email address omitted>
Priority:   Normal


Hi Marlene,

I posted your clip in the private section of the PPI forum. Is it ok to
move it to the public section? I can remove the identification if there is
a confidentiality problem.

Hope all is well.

Brian

> Hi Brian:
>
> Wow, that is an awesome analysis.  That's right, it would have been an AVP
> and not an EVP.  I will sign in to the forum and see what is being said.  
> I will share this with Kim for her review.  I really needed a good second
> opinion and knew I could count on you!
>
> Thanks again Brian!  I love you guys!
>
> Best,
> Marlene
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: "bmiller@pacificparanormal.com" <bmiller@pacificparanormal.com>
> To: marlene burke <email address omitted>
> Cc: ksherlock@pacificparanormal.com
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 1:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Anomalous Audio Clip
>
>
> Hi Marlene,
>
> Sorry for the delayed response. Thank you so much for sharing this audio
> clip from the [Location Omitted] in [Location Omitted].
>
> Listening to anomalous audio clips captured by other people is always a
> challenge because you have no frame of reference to determine whether or
> not the audio anomaly could have been caused by a source in the background
> environment. The quality of your recording is exceptional, so that helps a
> lot.
>
> I listened to your clip several times in Audacity, and looped tried to
> determine whether or not it had any of the "classic" characteristics I
> normally associate with EVP. It appears that other people heard this
> anomalous growling sound at the time it occurred, so technically I would
> have to classify this capture as an AVP (Audible Voice Phenomena) rather
> than an EVP. I hear the band playing in the background, and one of the
> investigators immediately concluded the anomalous growling sound was "the
> band". Although the sound is quite strange, I don't think it's a dog
> growling. It has characteristics I would associate with an amplified human
> voice, and the most likely explanation is that it was one of the band
> members goofing around at the end of their set, perhaps spoofing a death
> metal scream band  -- the music stops just before the clip ends, and
> everyone present seems to have heard it.
>
> Having said that, it's worth noting that paranormal audio anomalies have
> been captured simultaneously with loud environmental background noises, as
> if a spirit or entity somehow modulates the environmental sounds into
> vocalizations. Although I can't say for sure the audio clip is a
> paranormal sound, it is certainly strange. It doesn't have the odd
> acoustic signature I normally hear in typical EVP captures, and seems
> consistent with the acoustic quality of the voices speaking in the
> recording. Because there is a significant level of noise contamination in
> the background, you can't rule out the possibility it was caused by the
> band.
>
> Once again, thank you for sharing your clip with us. I converted your clip
> from wav to mp3 and posted it on the private forum for the rest of the
> team to review. Look forward to hearing their thoughts.
>
> Hope all is well --
>
> Brian
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

PPI Karl

Hi, Marlene:

I've listened to this clip now a dozen times, and I concur with Brian's detailed reply.  The acoustic signature of the growl is consistent with the treble and bass not only of the distant band music, but with the guy who starts speaking into the mic near the end.  I agree, too, that one of the team members identified the sound as soon as any question of it came up.  For next time, however, the next practical step to have taken was to have accepted the team member's input that this was due to the band, and then to have gone into the next room and ask one of the audience members if someone just growled.  It's always best to follow up immediately with some fact checking:  look for the source, yourself, instead of being satisfied with the sense of mystery your experiencing.

That's my take.  :)  Hope it's still helpful.  Thanks for submitting this, Marlene.
If you want to end your misery, start enjoying it, because there's nothing the universe begrudges more than our enjoyment.