Area 51/ Roswell

[Brian JohnsonPPI]

this is probably the biggest cover up by far. We know that Area 51 exists why are they trying to keep it a secret? As for Roswell could it really be a weather ballon? What is the government hiding from us?

[asmith]

No doubt, and it's one of the most blatant cover-ups of all time.
1. The area is covered with restricted signs, warning of trespassing laws.
2. The area is under surveillance by white jeeps and men in camouflage.
3. The government, just recently in the last five years, bought up the surrounding land. This was to prevent looky-lous from venturing to one of the summits to observe what was going on below in the valley of Groom Lake.

And when Russia came forward with satellite photos of the Groom Lake facility -- Our Government had the audacity to tell us that the base DOES NOT exist, with a straight face of course.

[PPI Karl]

Space.com today just published its "Top Ten Alien Myths Debunked," with many good links or print references to other resources.  You might find this interesting; click HERE.

[asmith]

Space.com today just published its "Top Ten Alien Myths Debunked," with many good links or print references to other resources.? You might find this interesting; click HERE.

I appreciate the article. Who is Benjamin? Where does he get his information? Can he back up his theories? Alas, someone else that is strongly opinionated and adding to the misinformation?

Check out this website...http://www.disclosureproject.org

At least these guys are trying to get to the source of the information (mainly the US Government) through the freedom of information act.

[PPI Karl]

I had a similar reaction to the Space.com article (published, incidentally, by The Skeptical Enquirer).  There's a common sleazy rhetorical tactic that both sides of the issues use.  This article uses it like this:  group together several factually debunked cases like cattle mutilations, Richard Hoagland, and crop circles, with the cases that are far from ever being debunked because they are so entrenched in government and military secrecy, and then dismiss the whole ball of wax as conspiracy tosh.  Nah-ah.  You can't pretend that an attitude about government conspiracy being nothing more than overactive imagination is argumentatively on the same footing as documented evidence to discredit alien mutilation of cattle.  And to attempt to do so is intellectually dishonest.

It's at moments like these that the so-called "enquirers" of skepticism annoy me.  They have a chance to rein in common sense where it strongly presents itself, but instead they'd rather promote skepticism as a ideological position.  I suppose a publicaiton like The Skeptical Enquirer would not even exist if it weren't for this tactic to make skepticism a kind of institution unto itself, but it nonetheless annoys me, and it yet again promotes an impression of skeptics as being arrogantly closed-minded.

A good selected bibliography offered, nonetheless.  I will certainly check out the link, Tony.  Thanks.