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Started by PPI Brian, February 18, 2009, 08:53:03 PM

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PPI Brian

Ok, I've seen these videos on YouTube for quite a while but refrained from commenting about them. The forums have been kind of quiet lately, so I thought I would stir things up a bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRiDJzBgXsY

Is this the REAL truth about orbs?  :)
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

PPI Tim

Wow
Nightvision really works.
I was really scared when he started to film his shoes.
Sounds interesting...Go on.

PPI Brian

If you thought that was scary, check this one out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDKQSyBRQL4&feature=related

Is this in fact a "winged" orb?  :)
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan

PPI Karl

Wow.  That was amazing.  Unfortunately, the amazing part is the extent to which people can talk themselves into firm conclusions from evidence that, at every turn (quite literally, in this case), is proof to the contrary. 

Am I supposed to believe that dust only kicks up when he moves him arms?  Or that the guy holding the camera during other parts of the video isn't shedding dandruff or moving his arms?  This is a really excellent example of pseduo-science:  he's got all the right vocabulary and seeming scientific approaches, but when held to scrutiny, it's a vacant theory.
If you want to end your misery, start enjoying it, because there's nothing the universe begrudges more than our enjoyment.

PPI Brian

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Quote from: PPI Karl on February 19, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
Wow.  That was amazing.  Unfortunately, the amazing part is the extent to which people can talk themselves into firm conclusions from evidence that, at every turn (quite literally, in this case), is proof to the contrary. 

Am I supposed to believe that dust only kicks up when he moves him arms?  Or that the guy holding the camera during other parts of the video isn't shedding dandruff or moving his arms?  This is a really excellent example of pseduo-science:  he's got all the right vocabulary and seeming scientific approaches, but when held to scrutiny, it's a vacant theory.

Hi Karl,

I agree; He's firmly convinced that he has captured solid evidence of paranormal activity in his home, when all he's captured is evidence of particulate matter floating in the air. He obviously doesn't understand the reflective properties of this particulate matter, and he doesn't understand the geometry of the IR illuminator and the lens of his video camera -- hand held camcorders tend to pick up less dust orbs than IR surveillance cameras, and this fact seems to be directly related to the location of the IR LED array and the lens of these different types of cameras. Perhaps you can use this video as an example of psuedoscience for the science fair? 

Regards,

Brian
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."--Carl Sagan