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Offline PPI Brian

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Here is a link about one of the most well documented poltergeist cases - the Enfield Poltergeist in the UK.


<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KHaItks5IYw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KHaItks5IYw</a>
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This clip is kind of long but worth watching.

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Here is a link to some of the documents and audio recordings from the Enfield case:

http://www.zurichmansion.org/ghosts/video2.html
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Here is a link about one of the most well documented poltergeist cases - the Enfield Poltergeist


This clip is kind of long but worth watching.

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Brian Miller

Brian, thank you SO FREAKING MUCH for posting this. I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT!!!!!!

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You're welcome!  ;D

Wouldn't it be cool to investigate a case like this?
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Thanks for sharing the link. Definatly definatly worth watching. =)
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This case was just in Fate Magazine. I have not read it yet, but it's there!
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This case was just in Fate Magazine. I have not read it yet, but it's there!

I would love to read it. This case has always fascinated me. Wouldn't it be great to investigate a case like this? The debunking, as well as all the potentially paranormal evidence would be awesome!  ;D
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I'll try to remember to seen it with Britt Sat. night.
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That would be awesome. Thank you, Holly.  ;D
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I forgot to give it to Britt, Sorry!!  :-[ He said your reading J & Grants book... I am going to start it right now! I already told J he has to sign it for me.  ;D
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I forgot to give it to Britt, Sorry!!  :-[ He said your reading J & Grants book... I am going to start it right now! I already told J he has to sign it for me.  ;D

Hi Holly,

No worries. I'm sure our paths will cross again in the near future.  :) Yes, I'm reading Jay and Grant's book, and it's awesome. Any way you can get signed copies for our group?  ;)

Hope you guys are not being threatened by the fires.

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These fires are just wow,pouring ash all over the place and it smells like a wood fire bbq 24/7.

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I forgot to give it to Britt, Sorry!!  :-[ He said your reading J & Grants book... I am going to start it right now! I already told J he has to sign it for me.  ;D

Hi Holly,

Just wanted to thank you for sharing the article about the Enfield Poltergeist. It's one of the most interesting poltergeist cases I've ever read about. The pictures look a little hokey, but that somehow adds to the mystique of the case. It would be cool to investigate a case like that. Debunking the tricks the kids were trying to pull must have kept the investigators on their toes! ;D

The articles about James Dean's car, the Glen Tavern Inn and the Eagle Tavern were also very cool. 
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This video clip says it all...   :)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/FLE20FrCgsc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/FLE20FrCgsc</a>

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Wow, great video.

This case really pushed the envelope for it's day. It would be awesome to investigate a case like this with state of the art equipment.
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I think youtube removed the link posted r/t violations.
I entered Enfield Poltergist & see what one of the girls
looks like now.  Gosh poor girl.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/gSEXE8I0DpE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/gSEXE8I0DpE</a>


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Yeah, I was disappointed when the link no longer worked. I have been searching around the net looking for the video to no avail.
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Here's a recent article from the Londonist regarding the Enfield Poltergeist:

http://londonist.com/2008/12/the_saturday_strangeness_25.php
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At long last, clips of this film have resurfaced on YouTube. Here are the links:


Preview:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/gSEXE8I0DpE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/gSEXE8I0DpE</a>

Part 1:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/tHHZp75EbWI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/tHHZp75EbWI</a>
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Part 2:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/SbmUs6CIy_U" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/SbmUs6CIy_U</a>
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Part 3:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/0qBLlruxPPI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/0qBLlruxPPI</a>
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Part 4:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nESwYTAA5Kk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nESwYTAA5Kk</a>
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Part 5:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/BPdnk0yStQI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/BPdnk0yStQI</a>
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Part 6:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/mCQDSPTcoxY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/mCQDSPTcoxY</a>
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The demonic voice thing seemed kinda hokey to me. Clearly, a lot of this was one or both girls acting out, either for attention or perhaps on some unconscious level. On the other hand, a lot of the stuff that happened isn't as easily explained away, like objects being thrown when no one is around, or the one girl floating by the window. Also, that one guy has an awesome mustache, which greatly augments his credibility, don't you agree? ;)
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I don't trust guys with a mustache. It's like they're trying to hide something  ;) (kidding)

I agree with Brigham on the voices. I'm not totally familiar with poltergeist hauntings, but I remember at the last training that one of the Brians mentioned "Thought Form." I did a little bit of research on the web and, so far, only found articles discussing "Tulpas" and "Homunculi." But from what I understand so far "Thought Form" seems to be either the exertion of psychic power to create a small being (like that episode of "X-Files" where the homeowner's association president mentally created a creature which then went around and did horible things to the people in the neighborhood who didn't keep their grass cut to the right height) or exertion of psychic power to some type of telekinetic effect (one article I read discussed how a group of psychics were supposedly able to produce tapping sounds on tables by thoughts alone). From some other sources I've read it seems that "Thought Form" poltergeist activity seems to occur frequently in homes where adolescents are living.

So, in short, if I'm understanding this correctly, it seems like the Enfield haunting is a manifestation of "Thought Form." I'd be interested to learn more about this topic if someone has anything to add.

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Thought Forms seem to be common to most Poltergeist cases that I've read about. The Bell Witch case, the Doris Bither case and the Enfield case all started with objects being manipulated, knocks, and other anomalies, then toward the end a human figure manifested. Tibetan mysticism defines a "Tulpa" as a "Magical Emination" or a paranormal entity that's created by the conscious effort of a focal person. Thought Forms are also described in native American mysticism, and are probably common to many cultures throughout the world. A modern experiment allegedly carried out in a semi-controlled situation was the "Philip Experiment", where a group of students overseen by a Psychologist attempted to "create" a ghost. "Paranormal Theorists Suggest" that poltergeist cases are manifestations of psychokinetic energy created by the "Focal" person. The resulting paranormal activity is not a manifestation of a paranormal entity, but by the mind of the Focal. Over a period of time, a Thought Form begins to take form, and assumes "responsibility" for the paranormal manifestations before dissipating. This field appears to be the case in a majority of poltergeist cases, but not all of them follow this pattern. Of course this is all speculation and not supported by anything other than observation in the field.

Here are a couple of articles on the subject of Thought Forms:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa#Thoughtform

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_experiment

A few other related videos have surfaced on YouTube regarding the Enfield case:

Here's a great interview with Maurice Gross, who led the SPR investigation of the Enfield Poltergeist case
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/_OY8CAVNAnA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/_OY8CAVNAnA</a>

Here's an incredible interview with the Focal of the Enfield Poltergeist (Janet), Sir Guy Lyon Playfair and a hardcore skeptic.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Dqf7azyYxtQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Dqf7azyYxtQ</a>

An Episode of "Strange But True" featuring the Enfield Poltergeist
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/P0yOAIXrpH4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/P0yOAIXrpH4</a>
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