Discovery Channel announced a new paranormal TV show that will debut this fall called: Ghost Lab. Has anybody heard about this show or this paranormal group?
Discovery Channel press release:
http://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/press-releases/2009/ghost-lab/
Enid, OK newspaper article about recent filming for Ghost Lab:
http://www.enidnews.com/localnews/local_story_240002434.html
Everyday Paranormal's website:
http://www.everydayparanormal.com/Home_Page.php
Is it starting Britt and Holly?
No, that's another show. This one is new. :)
I am anxious to see the types of equipment they use for their investigations. They allegedly have a trailer full of equipment they use for evidence analysis. After looking at their website, I am having difficulty believing their anything more than "Ghost Adventures" with a Texas drawl.
Quote from: PPI Tim on September 15, 2009, 06:43:08 PM
Is it starting Britt and Holly?
Dude, I love ya and you are as cute as a bug's ear...but give it a rest. Please....for moi??
Okay okay.. How about they rename the show and called it "JUMPING THE GHOSTSHARK WITH MEL AND ANDY"?
That's bad, Tim. ;D
Anyway, I've been surfing their website and learning a thing or two about Everyday Paranormal. Not sure what to think. They don't portray themselves as a serious paranormal research group. They haven't been around for very long, and from what little information I have been able to find, they haven't published any earth shattering new theories to advance the field. And they actually charge people to sign up for their forums.
I'm not psychic, but I'm getting a negative "vibe" already...
Charge people to sign up for the forums.....Damn it! Why didn't we think of that?
They should rename their forums and call it the graveyard because it is going nothing but the dead.
"THIS PLACE WAS BUILT BY THE DEAD. AND THE DEAD WILL KEEP IT. THE WAY IS SHUT"
Quote from: PPI Tim on September 16, 2009, 12:04:11 AM
Okay okay.. How about they rename the show and called it "JUMPING THE GHOSTSHARK WITH MEL AND ANDY"?
Oh DUDE!! You have totally outDONE yourself!! You ROCK!! Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout!! >:]
Quote from: PPI Tim on September 16, 2009, 03:28:54 AM
"THIS PLACE WAS BUILT BY THE DEAD. AND THE DEAD WILL KEEP IT. THE WAY IS SHUT"
Tim,
the way is......
what?
Lord of the Rings Tracy. The way is shut as in the place for the dishonored dead. Like the Paranormal Forums who charge money to join them. They are both places that are dead.
Quote from: PPI Tim on September 16, 2009, 11:37:25 AM
Lord of the Rings Tracy. The way is shut as in the place for the dishonored dead. Like the Paranormal Forums who charge money to join them. They are both places that are dead.
Wow, Dude. That's major. Totally major.
Well, I sat through the first episode of Ghost Lab last night. Anybody else see it?
crickets
Yeah, the Klinge brothers really came off flat. No personality at all.
Three episodes have aired, and I'm still intrigued by some of the experiments conducted by EP. I liked the Tesla Coil they used in Tombstone. Not too impressed by the "evidence" they captured, but their field experiments keep me tuning in every Tuesday night. :)
Ive been watching it. But thats just because I watch all the paranormal shows to compare.
Well, minus M.H. that one is annoying.
I agree; MH is really hard to watch.
Scariest Places on Earth, however, is pretty cool. :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/T54lLMJ17kk&hl=en_US&fs=1&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54lLMJ17kk
Yeah ! I was watching those epis this weekend ! hehe
I love the hokey narration by Zelda Rubenstein. The movie Poltergeist really made her voice a horror icon, didn't it?
Alright... we need to make a little schedule with all the available Paravision shows (that was my lame attempt at a new term ;D) that are on during the week. Sadly, I only know when Ghost Hunters is on, and I'm growing tired of the drama. The last episode I watched... well, I can't get that time back! :-\
Soo..... when and what channel can we find more shows? :)
I watched two episodes....
but I love PPI more. ;)
I go on youtube to watch and get my paranormal fix*. Rigby67 's channel has a lot of cool paranormal shows on it. Check it out. :)
I dont get to watch t.v much. So I watch/listen while im doing my work on the compter. Makes adjusting and printing invoices go soo much faster.. heh.
;D
~Shell
Awesome... I just subscribed. I'll watch some after work.... before South Park! ;D
Thank you!
Quote from: ravenmunin on October 21, 2009, 12:46:16 PM
I watched two episodes....
but I love PPI more. ;)
Thank you, Debra. You're too kind. ;D
The show is very fast moving (slick).
Definitely entertainment oriented.
In their episode in Chicago, I thought their use a of a machine to read auras/moods did not warrant the conclusion: that a change in aura color comes from a ghost or event imprint. Never mind they were yelling and screaming... whose aura/mood wouldn't change? But to them : Dang... it was a ghost!
Allot of details are left out of the filming, the viewer isn't always sure what protocols were used.
But this is just my opinion.
I'm going to have to see the show to make up my mind.
I'm thinking that the show is something like mythbusters or isn't it?
I've only seen 2 episodes, but there has been no debunking on ghostlab.
Quote from: ravenmunin on October 21, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
The show is very fast moving (slick).
Definitely entertainment oriented.
In their episode in Chicago, I thought their use a of a machine to read auras/moods did not warrant the conclusion: that a change in aura color comes from a ghost or event imprint. Never mind they were yelling and screaming... whose aura/mood wouldn't change? But to them : Dang... it was a ghost!
Allot of details are left out of the filming, the viewer isn't always sure what protocols were used.
But this is just my opinion.
I like the cut of your opinion's jib, Debra. :D Once again, resorting to hyperbole and gimmicks such as "
extreme ghost hunting" demonstrates just how much these shows are NOT about making a name for yourself in paranormal investigating, but rather about aspiring to a "reality" TV career. If the show makes it to another season (and it won't, so I'm not worried) we'll start seeing other TV reality "stars" turning out for the episodes. Not that
Ghost Hunters would ever do that. <cough>pro wrestlers<cough-cough>Destination Truth<cough>. ::|
Cue voice-over:
Next time, on Ghost Lab
. . . The crew hot dog it with Tiffany "New York" Pollard and go to work at a paranormally active Wienerschnitzel . . . blah blah blah.
I just saw a episode of Ghost Lab.
I like their lab but to what I have seen they can't conduct a proper baseline sweep worth a poop. They take pictures but don't document sources of high EMF in rooms. Nice Narrator from Deadliest Catch. Rocket Scientists they are not. I wonder if the Ghost Lab is also a toy box for All Terrain Vehicles when the crew want to investigate Sand dunes of Glamis. I hope they learn to step it up.
Tim, I also watched Ghost Lab last night. I have previously seen a couple minutes of it, but never stopped to watch, until last night, and I fully agree. They have a whole lot of fun toys. I even had a dream last night that someone just gave me their little cell phone sized FLIR device, which was awesome, but I think I woke up before I got to put it to good use. Damn! ::| Nice toys, bad style.
From separate sides of the room, "Did you hear that breathing? Yeah, right here. No, it was right it was by me, not you. Oh, well there's a lot of pipes 'n' sh!t down here!" These guys did come straight outta Glamis!!!
But again.... NICE Freakin' equipment!!!! ;D
Quote from: PPI Gary on October 28, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
But again.... NICE Freakin' equipment!!!! ;D
I bet you say that to all the investigators. {8I
Quote from: PPI Karl on October 22, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
Quote from: ravenmunin on October 21, 2009, 08:00:23 PM
Cue voice-over:
Next time, on Ghost Lab . . . The crew hot dog it with Tiffany "New York" Pollard and go to work at a paranormally active Wienerschnitzel . . . blah blah blah.
:D oh....my sides....ouch... :D
I'm envious of y'all. Sadly, I just haven't had that much time this semester to watch these programs, and, I confess, once I do, there's something better on Bravo I'd rather watch that allows me to spend that time with Max (who doesn't want to watch the ghost reality shows). I did, however, catch the first few minutes of <cue uproarious, farting laughter> Extreme Paranormal two nights ago. Two high-serious guys who look into the camera from under their brows interviewed a singing voodoo priestess. Needless to say, I pulled the plug before the first note chortled out of her.
Quote from: TAPS Tracy on October 28, 2009, 11:39:33 AM
Quote from: PPI Gary on October 28, 2009, 09:53:50 AM
But again.... NICE Freakin' equipment!!!! ;D
I bet you say that to all the investigators. {8I
I just laughed soo hard, everyone in my work bay just looked at me in confusiuon!!!
I fear these shows signal the death of paranormal "reality" shows as we know them. Time to cue Fonzie. :)
http://www.youtube.com/v/MDthMGtZKa4&hl=en_US&fs=1&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDthMGtZKa4&feature=related
Will our fearless paranormal crew discover the Neilson ratings to continue?
TUNE IN NEXT WEEK ANOTHER EXCITING EPISODE OF GHOST SHARK!
Did anybody catch last night's episode of Ghost Lab? I have to admit I was intrigued by their experiments. When they started spouting off their "theory" that bodies of water generate EMF I found myself saying "prove it". To my utter astonishment, they tested the Mississippi river water for electrical conductivity, then set up a series of EMF data loggers to determine whether or not a measurable EM Field was being generated by the river. They even used the geography of the location to pose a possible explanation why paranormal activity only occured on the third floor of this location. Must give credit where credit is due. :)
Quote from: PPI Brian M on November 04, 2009, 01:50:17 PM
Did anybody catch last night's episode of Ghost Lab? I have to admit I was intrigued by their experiments. When they started spouting off their "theory" that bodies of water generate EMF I found myself saying "prove it". To my utter astonishment, they tested the Mississippi river water for electrical conductivity, then set up a series of EMF data loggers to determine whether or not a measurable EM Field was being generated by the river. They even used the geography of the location to pose a possible explanation why paranormal activity only occured on the third floor of this location. Must give credit where credit is due. :)
Well...all I have to say to that is .....um.....
WOW? Maybe I
should give it a look-see. P^/
Quote from: TAPS Tracy on November 04, 2009, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: PPI Brian M on November 04, 2009, 01:50:17 PM
Did anybody catch last night's episode of Ghost Lab? I have to admit I was intrigued by their experiments. When they started spouting off their "theory" that bodies of water generate EMF I found myself saying "prove it". To my utter astonishment, they tested the Mississippi river water for electrical conductivity, then set up a series of EMF data loggers to determine whether or not a measurable EM Field was being generated by the river. They even used the geography of the location to pose a possible explanation why paranormal activity only occured on the third floor of this location. Must give credit where credit is due. :)
Well...all I have to say to that is .....um.....WOW? Maybe I should give it a look-see. P^/
Look no further: ;D
Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/v/a8i2nR-dub0
Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/v/WUBVCYWk5z4
Part 3:http://www.youtube.com/v/xKbUGbt3vkk
Part 4:http://www.youtube.com/v/YDwsksIrzJo
Part 5:http://www.youtube.com/v/-AprIyCa_9U
I have watched a few episodes of "Ghost Lab", and I am not impressed with their tactics of "getting the ghosts to come out." It is one thing to try and antagonize a spirit, but all they do is yell. I think that, in some cases, it is appropriate to challenge them to show themselves or give signs. But not all the time the way they do it. I believe in respect for the dead and respect in someone else's house. I wonder how they would make a resident feel after hearing them yelling at whatever they believe is in their house. People want to be comforted in some way and have answers, if not make the activity stop. I wonder if the residents freak out and think their ghosts are going to come out when the "Ghost Lab" guys leave and torment them in retaliation. I actually cannot watch that show anymore. Hell, if I were a spirit, I would not come out either! I'll stick to "Ghost Hunters". :)
Lily,
You should read my article on provoking. I made some of the very points you brought up.
But those thoughts aren't original. The idea of provoking has been thrown about quite a bit and it is still quite controversial. In our group, I think we have a philosophy very similar to the view that you expressed. We basically consider it a tool among many tools that we keep in mind when conducting an investigation. We don't do it all the time, and honestly, when I have used it I didn't really get any results.
Others, however, have gotten results from provoking. But like everything else in life, as you pointed out, you just have to ........ [cue the Kenny Roger's music]
know when to hold 'em,
know when to show 'em,
know when to piss 'em off,
know when to run.
[PPI offers its apologies to Kenny Rogers and the fans of Kenny Rogers.....as well as Barona Casino]
Jason...I'd be interested in reading your article. And, I will never hear Kenny Rogers' "Gambler" the same way again. :D
Hi Lilly,
I agree; the Klinge brother's approach to EVP is not likely to produce results. As Jason said, we use a variety of approaches, based on many factors, but we are always respectful. There is no need to be gruff and abusive, unless you're on TV and you're trying to show everybody how "tough" you are. :D
Here's a link to the PPI Article section, which includes the article Jason wrote entitled: "Provoking, or How To Lose Friends and Influence Ghosts in the Paranormal World" --
http://www.pacificparanormal.com/joomla/content/blogcategory/6/15/
Hey Brian..thanks for the link. :)
Nice article, Jason. :) #3 made the same points that I had in my head regarding provoking and who you are trying to provoke. As in investigations involving living people, we know that in many cases, in order to get the confession, admission, or reaction, we have to know about who our person is and speak their language. To me, "Provocation" is like an Inside Joke they would like to forget....it is saying something specific to them in a manner in which they understand in order to rile them up to whatever degree and cause them to respond. I agree that speaking English to a Spanish-speaking ghost, etc. probably won't get one far.
You pretty much covered that topic to the point that I have no questions about it! Thank you for that! Furthermore, I have nothing intelligent to add to it. ;D
NEWSFLASH: "The paratainment axe has swung. It's officially cancelled"
Maybe, with a little necromancy, they'll "resurrect" it on Animal Planet as a canine showcase. I might watch it then.
I was actually kind of bummed to hear they cancelled the show. Jason Hawes popped out some comment about it on FB the other day. Although I didn't really warm up to their aggressive approach, they were doing some very interesting things -- such as proving that polluted river water is electrically conductive, and can cause natural EMF in a reputed haunted location. Other TV shows just blurt out "facts"; these guys did simple field experiments to prove some of the physical aspects of their theories. Personally, I would have rather seen GAC cancelled. ;D
From what I gathered, fans of the show (or cast?) verbally attacked Jason, et al..........stating that it was GH/GHI's fault that their show was cancelled. I never got the full story.
Quote from: PPI Tracy on January 20, 2011, 03:38:40 PM
From what I gathered, fans of the show (or cast?) verbally attacked Jason, et al..........stating that it was GH/GHI's fault that their show was cancelled. I never got the full story.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was both the fans and the cast. I really enjoyed watching the show, but then again I watch enjoy watching almost anything paranormal. Still love those episodes of Scariest Places narrated by Zelda Rubenstein.
Oh Zelda. My sweet Zelda. Yeah, I miss her and the show.
I swear though, my new FAAAAAAV show has to be: Celebrity Ghost Stories. I swear.....(oh, i already did that...sorry). I TELL ya....it's like Justin Bieber's music: I can't get enough of it. (yeah...that was a joke).
Seriously though, it is an awesome show! I love it, love it, love it!
AH MAN! That show was cool.
I don't know how they did it but they even had a black guy that looked like the white guys in the show.
Just wondering, Does anyone know what they are going to do with the Ghost lab Trailor? We could buy it and call it the PPI LAB!
;D
Quote from: PPI Tim on January 20, 2011, 04:25:08 PM
Just wondering, Does anyone know what they are going to do with the Ghost lab Trailor? ;D
They're probably going to live in it.....down by the river
I like watching GAC however, I don't like how the majority of the time they provoke. Also, some of the equipment they use like the Tesla Coil, EMF pumps, ghost boxes, the little device that sits on the floor that changes colors(like a Simon Says), and many others.
GH at times can be boring however, GHI on their European investigations are interesting. Did anyone watch last nights episode? I wanted to but I had to work. I am glad however that Barry is running the crew rather than that other guy that first started it.
I tried to watch Ghost Labs but, found them quite borrrrinnnngggg. Although they did anounce time stamps for later review.
Well, here's the thing Mark; by and large, paranormal investigating is boring. It's not like an episode of CSI where the suspense keeps coming and people have perfect hair as they run around in their Armani suits. (but we do have quick wit and clever conversation). ;D We spend more hours just sitting in the dark, staring at each other and talking to the walls. The real excitement (and work) begins when you review your evidence.
What I enjoy about certain paranormal shows is not how fast people run in the dark (dumb move...don't EVER do that) but the techniques they use....or misuse and actually how they approach something makes me think if I would do it the same way. It gives me ideas of how else I would try to figure out...ohhhh....saaay... a hit on the thermal which could totally be a crew member. What would I do? Would I stand there and go, "wow....it's paranormal" or would I use the two legs that God gave me, and haul my ass down there to figure out WHO it was? (I'll give you three guesses).
Anyway, it's not all shoot em up. "Paratainment" as we call it, has turned paranormal investigation into something where people want that instant gratification. Trouble is, it's not like that in reality. The investigation part is only about 40% of the work. Again, the evidence review is where it really begins. It does take a lot of hard work. For every hour of audio you have, prepare to spend two hours reviewing it...minimum. Capturing, documenting, compiling......it's not "edge of your seat stuff" but if you are interested in this field for that reason, you might be disappointed. It's the research.....long term. That's what makes most of us stay in this field, year after year. It's not for the "thrill of it". Although, it is thrilling when you truly get an anomaly on video or audio. It's a lot of work, but well worth it in the long run...evidence or no evidence
Tracy is right in the ballpark. It reminds me of fishing but you will rarely find out what is in the net until you go home and dump out on the floor...computer. Almost everything I have ever captured has been discovered after the investigation was finished. The idea that I could catch a whale of evidence keeps me searching.
These comments represent a huge dichotomy in paranormal investigation right now. It seems like more and more there are two distinct camps forming on either side of a growing paranormal rift. The "fun" camp v. the "science" camp. I don't think the two have to be mutually exclusive, but they are sometimes. For example, if you like fun then you probably want to run around a graveyard and shout at demons to come and chase you. Personally I think that might be fun. But you'll never be able to collect evidence that isn't contaminated by someone shouting, "DUDE RUN!!!" in the background.
Now a scientific approach allows you to approach every investigation in a methodical quantitative manner. You take yourself and your investigation seriously. But this is not always ideal either. It's possible to make an investigation so boring that it becomes like a second job.
I personally like to hear ideas of how to make paranormal investigation fun while still maintaining the same objectivity and integrity that science demands. I personally like to chase down meth induced vandals who babble non-sense and then help the police take them into custody during investigations.
What are some of your ideas on how to make science more fun? :)
Although sometimes they hit far afield from the mark, Penn and Teller always did a fun job of delivering practical explanations and revealing outrageously manipulative or exploitative people. Mythbusters often accomplished the same effect. I certainly don't propose that paranormal investigative practices become abrasive, or that we start getting all Ricky Gervaise on people's asses. (You go, Ricky! Love ya.) However, investigators not taking THEMSELVES quite as seriously as their investigations might be a good start: bring to bear a more playful but intelligent personality to the field of investigating. Personally, I'm so sick of the cult of machismo into which paratainment has descended, whether it's among the demon chasers or the brainiacs. Shows have used practically every hypermasculine cliche there is to portray paranormal investigating as, not only an alpha-male extreme "sport," but also filled with the villainous unknown and the heroic saviors of either faith or reason. Personally, restoring a little humility to these television depictions of what we do might be a good way to make them fun and accessible again. However, maybe I'm just coming from an outdated point of view on this. :)